A Bit Of Perspective

Online Support Groups have their own character different than anywhere else. Almost every conflict I have ever seen is because of that perspective. I saw this posted on another community so immediately lifted it for here:

"Some people think of this place as a support group in the light of sharing feelings and experiences. For those people, I think what is primarily wanted is emotional support for the bad experiences we have had along the way.

Others think of this more as an information source, a place to share treatment plans and research and get practical help in dealing with all manner of things.

Some people come from an emotional, humanistic perspective.

Others come from an analytical point of view.

So if someone says "I did x, and y happened," and someone responds, "I'm sorry to hear that. That is very rare and it's too bad it happened, but here's the mathematical perspective..."

Well, in that scenario, maybe half the people reading will nod and say "That makes sense" and half will say "how insensitive!"

And both "halves" are "correct" from a certain point of view.

If you are in a real-life "support group" to deal with an issue, no one would ever try to use statistics in response to someone's sharing of an emotional event.

On the other hand, if you are trying to make an analytical decision, you want the broad numbers and chances and ratios.

If I am in a support group because I nearly died from a peanut allergy, I want to talk about how it made me feel and not hear statistics about how healthy peanuts are.

But if I am trying to decide whether or not to add peanuts to my diet, I want to know how LIKELY a severe allergic reaction is--- 1 in 1 million? 1 in 5?--- and also the benefits of peanuts, so I can make an informed decision.

If I'm the one in a million who something happens to, it doesn't matter to ME that the other 999,999 were just fine.

But if I want to decide whether or not to try peanuts, I want to know what my relative risk is.

Both "sides" have a valid point. And if you try to mix the two groups, hurt feelings or frustration can ensue.

But both "sides" have a valid place here, and perhaps if we just all considered the various points of views of others we would be less inclined to see so many threads devolve into disputes.

Surely I'm not the only one here who can see several valid points of view and appreciate them all?"
Because I'm me, I just have add to it. We need to respect where each of us are on that spectrum. My perspective in regards to PsA is simply this. PsA is disease that the outcome is largely determined by HOW much we fight back and fight through the pain, attend PT take out meds etc etc..
As far as I am concerned it is war. I understand feelings I even have some. However I am more likely to THINK, (I won't say it) "Group is at 9:00 bring your happy drugs" in response to the feely stuff. I'm old. I was never told to "use my inside voice" or "use my feelings words" so I'm not even sure what those two phrases mean. One I think means "shut Up" the other I think means "I don't care whats going on, I want you to know what ever it is, its about me"
Anyway I just lost a battle in my war. My shoulder is gone. I mean its gone. The ball finally left the building and there is no soft tissue (saved on an MRI) The socket is two bones. It was functioning ONLY because of the PT I had done building up the muscle. (and to think I went in to ask if I could either get it shot up or maybe a rotor rooter job) So now I am trussed up like a Christmas present until I either go to Seattle or the Surgeon from Seattle comes here a$ it i$ bit a more recon$truction than the local$ want to try. BTW this is from a motorcycle injury years ago and less to do with PsA.

So in the next few weeks I'll be disappearing for a while. That means you all will have to be as mean and nasty as I am and keep each other moving forward. I really have to work now to post as I can't operate a tab, and don't use a PC or Lap Top at home (so as to preserve my marriage)

Wise words Lamb :slight_smile:

Wishing you well with your shoulder issues…hope you’re not still trussed up like a turkey come shooting season, or ‘her-in-doors’ maybe picking shot outta where the sun don’t shine;) x

Oh, Lamb … so sorry. But those are feeling words. :slight_smile: Go to war on that shoulder, battle through the PT (hope you fine a really mean therapist!) and do what will get you back here asap. We’ll be awaiting your progress reports.

Good luck lamb. I would be a lost little puppy with out you. I know I"m way too feely for you, but I'll go to battle for you any time, any place, you old coodger, just call - it's a short drive for me. Us oldsters need to stick together ,!Thank you for all of your help. Get feeling better soon---- I'll miss fighting with you.......

p.s. I'm still crazy I have proof LOL

Best to you for a speedy recovery. And in your absence I am CERTAIN someone will put on their big girl panties and find the willpower to offer objective and fact-oriented responses in your honor.

Good Luck Lamb,hope it goes well. Having shoulder surgery myself on the 11th,fun times.

Wishing you the quickest best'est treatment and speediest recovery possible ..... and sending you lots of touchy feely best wishes!

Wishing you the best of luck with the surgery and a speedy recovery. I'll miss your voice here while you're gone. Sorry if that's a bit too touchy feely. (And yes, that's said w/ complete sarcasm).

Good luck with the surgery.

Best wishes Lamb!

I think the most successful support group are a combination of fact / just get over it / keep fighting, and emotional support.

A group that is all emotional support can get real whiney real quick, and lose members. A group that is all fact / just get over it / keep fighting can feel sterile and without connection and can lose members.

My local autoimmune disease support group has been working really well, because we effortlessly change from talking about aggressively managing treatment to offering support for someone having a tough time with their disease, a bad dr, or med issues. Then back to answers and sharing research and research based solutions.

Godspeed Lamb. And as the Arc angel Michael says, "BATTLE!"

No one can replace you here; you are Our Lamb. We will try to keep heart and head in balance till you return. Hurry.

Ouch! Wishing you a swift recovery! We'll miss you while you're gone.

Good luck Lamb! Sending positive vibes, healing thoughts and wishing you a speedy recovery!

Speedy recovery, Lamb! Our thoughts and "feelings" are with you!

So sorry to hear about your shoulder issue. I will keep you in prayer & look forward to your return. We will all miss you.

Hope you are back to your usual self in no time. May your recovery be restful and restorative.

A new shoulder? Surely, that’s just what you have always wanted! I wish you the best, my grumpy, shoot-from-the-hip friend. I will miss your frank and honest nature. As I’m sure you know, shoulders are tough, and will require you to really battle through to get the best function possible. Maybe it’s a good thing that your docs are bringing in the Big $hot?! Anyhoo, take care of you for a while, and try not to go stir crazy. Maybe you’ll be able to sneak computer access every once in a while to let us know you are okay?

Wishing you to most uneventful surgery and a strong recovery.

I'm so sorry, Lamb ! I hope your surgery goes well. I am glad you are preserving your marriage and the rest of the post was very insightful as well. You'll be in my thoughts and prayers for a good result with your shoulder.

Wishing you well and cannot wait till you are back. Take care!

In my best aussie mining bloke words;

Ha ha, don’t be an idiot lamb, you haven’t lost the battle - you’ve still got your arm to reattach don’t you!!!

And now, in my “use your words honey” to my 4 year old daughter words;

Stay with us, and get stronger. Many of us like you around, crusty and all.

Now which half am I? The apologetically absent one at the moment! Keep well :slight_smile: