Surgery count

Figured that I might as well update this list

  1. Exploratory laparoscopy, ovarian cyst
  2. L4-5 laminectomy/diskectomy
  3. L4-L5 laminectomy/diskectomy and scar clean up
  4. Tonsils
  5. Right base of thumb laxity
  6. Left thumb trigger release
  7. Right thumb trigger release
  8. DeQuervain’s release right side
  9. DeQuervain’s release left side
  10. Right shoulder AC joint
  11. Left eye cataract
  12. Right eye cataract
  13. Left foot bone graft and hardware placement (idiopathic fracture)
  14. Removal of hardware
  15. Removal of ganglion cyst, right foot
  16. Removal of the same ganglion cyst, again
  17. Left middle finger trigger finger release
  18. Left eye post cataract laser surgery
  19. Right knee medial meniscus arthroscopy
  20. Left carpal tunnel release

Do you at least get Air Miles points for all these surgeries? Congrats on surviving them!

No, but I’m also not sure if the doctor in the lead with surgery count wins a prize. My old hand surgeon got up to five and is still the leader. Current hand surgeon is at two, and the foot surgeon has four

I’ve not need one surgery yet as regards PsA effects or indeed any side effects issues.

Posted the above too soon. Just wanting to send cyber hugs on enduring all that. It’s a heck of a lot of surgery issues.

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Most of my surgeries have fallen into a similar category, releases. So while there’s a lot of surgeries, thankfully they are primarily minimal. My mom has had a lot of these surgeries as well. I think there’s some combination of genetics and autoimmune at work.

Thankfully, this latest surgery has been minimally disruptive

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  1. Exploratory laparoscopy, ovarian cyst
  2. L4-5 laminectomy/diskectomy
  3. L4-L5 laminectomy/diskectomy and scar clean up
  4. Tonsils
  5. Right base of thumb laxity
  6. Left thumb trigger release
  7. Right thumb trigger release
  8. DeQuervain’s release right side
  9. DeQuervain’s release left side
  10. Right shoulder AC joint
  11. Left eye cataract
  12. Right eye cataract
  13. Left foot bone graft and hardware placement (idiopathic fracture)
  14. Removal of hardware
  15. Removal of ganglion cyst, right foot
  16. Removal of the same ganglion cyst, again
  17. Left middle finger trigger finger release
  18. Left eye post cataract laser surgery
  19. Right knee medial meniscus arthroscopy
  20. Left carpal tunnel release
  21. Right carpal tunnel release
  22. Right cubital tunnel release with transposition

That’s quite the list! I think I’ve had just slightly more vehicles in my time.

I just updated my surgery list for a medical appointment yesterday. Any surgeries, they ask. I hand them a typed list to make life easy for them. 18 surgeries are a lot for me to remember, let’s face it. No idea how many are PsA related. I think my body parts are, in general, just wearing out.

3 joint surgeries. My left knee and right shoulder replacements plus reconstructed right ankle and tibia once set off metal detector alarm at airport security. I did warn them about all that metal, but they sent me through the booth thing anyway.

Carpal tunnel and thumb tendon shifted in right wrist.

4 gynecological, 2 hernias, 2 involving gall bladder removal, 1 anal

3 major eye surgeries (trabeculectomies)for severe glaucoma, 2 cataract removals

2 right breast cancer surgeries: biopsy for suspicious cells, lumpectomy for cancerous growth.

And that’s it - for now.

That is quite impressive!

Do you think that it’s so extensive and important because you were not diagnosed and started on treatment and a timely fashion? I was just peeking at your bio and your approximate age and time of diagnosis

That’s a good question I ask myself. Most of these surgery causes seem unrelated to me as rheumatological based, except the joint replacements and wrist surgery. The ankle/tibia surgery was due to a fall. I’ve been treated for some rheumatological condition or other since 1996. A confusing mix of myofascial pain, OA, RA now PsA. Many of the drugs I was prescribed for RA would also have had some effect on PsA.

I was also diagnosed with erosive inflammatory osteoarthritis EIO in 2010 after years of severe hand pain. But EIO only affects the hands and fingers.

I don’t know how any of these conditions as autoimmune would have been directly or indirectly the cause of the internal problems resulting in surgery. I rather think not. Any ideas?

My glaucoma specialist has definitely said my glaucoma, treated since 1996, has no connection with my other conditions. Research suggests glaucoma should be considered an autoimmune disease. I’m just very unlucky my glaucoma progressed so aggressively.

It’s highly likely all of your surgeries are autoimmune based with your eye issues specifically having their own (but obviously related) autoimmune trajectory, given autoimmune diseases cluster for the very obvious reason being that your immune system is just anyway grossly abnormal, with prehaps the exception of the breast cancer issues, although many would say having a grossly abnormal immune system isn’t great for cancer issues either - again for obvious abnormal immune system reasons.

I’m always so surprised especially in the USA, how grossly unaware the medics are as to how much of a systemic and beast of disease PsA actually is. It literally affects so much of the body as in it affects at least 68 joints, the entire spine and every tendon and ligament in your body. The systemic nature of the PsA inflammation coursing through your body then affects virtually all internal organs especially to include the gall bladder too. PsA can even inflame the bladder as well as well as heart, lungs kidneys, liver pancreas etc. And there is no reason why it can’t affect matters gynaecologically as well.

OA damage and PsA damage look precisely the same to an uneducated in PsA radiologist too and an uneducated in PsA orthopaedic consultant too.

Our bodily parts don’t operate in self-contained kind of silos either as some medics would have you believe too, everything is connected.

So all your hand issues are symptoms of PsA damage, every single one of them to include all the repeated carpal tunnel stuff and all the rest of your joints issues. PsA affects each of them without question.It so, so loves to inflame tendon sheaths like carpal tunnel too.

Idiopathic fractures are well known to be caused by steroid use too and general bone density issues. As an inflammatory arthritis sufferer sometimes the only thing we can take to help the severity of the pain from the PsA flare are steroids. So that is double edged sword more so if we are female and heading towards the menopause or past the menopause. I do hope you got your bone density checked after than fracture? If not get your doctors to order a DEXA scan. Osteoporosis meds work exceptionally well and far faster than PsA meds - as I got idiopathic fractures too but osteoporosis meds increased my bone density again well. I’m back on them again as my PsA med failed so hence more short course steroids were required and the bone density has sadly slipped down again.

Early diagnosis of PsA is hard, more so if the patient kind of presents in a slow rumbling occuring system of symptoms. Joining the dots then takes time and the early diagnosis is invariably missed too. However if you are lucky enough like I was to start my PsA journey with sudden onset PsA then you do have the chance to be treated optimally from the start which does tend to protect from joint damage better. Or at least that is my experience 10 years post sudden onset PsA. However I am treated and have been treated all along by a top PsA specialist in the UK thankfully anyway. Who does join dots and joined dots early on and indeed continues to join dots cogently.

What PsA meds are you on Janet now as surely you must be on some?

Thanks to everyone replying to my recent posts. I really appreciate it. Now that I have educated myself on PsA, I can easily connect the dots of seemingly unrelated issues that have plagued me since 1993 when this fun all started. Until 6 months ago, neither psoriasis, let alone psoriatic arthritis never occurred to doctors or myself.
The big problem has been a rheumatologist dismissing clear symptoms as “could be anything,” sticking with medications that clearly don’t work for too long and underestimating my level of pain until other doctors confirmed it. The diagnosis was seronegative RA and if my symptoms didn’t fit, well forget about them. So, I stopped discussing symptoms with her and tried to deal with the toenails and other skin outbreaks myself. Finally went to my family doctor.

My first diagnosis in 1997 was, in fact, intractable myofascial pain which in retrospect is not surprising. Doctors in Switzerland where we were living from 1992-96, saw me through 4 surgeries and 2 other hospitalizations. They eliminated MS via a spinal tap. They knew something was systemically wrong and I can’t fault them for trying to figure it out. But they couldn’t determine an underlying problem. The best they could come up with was fibromyalgia, which at that time was the latest big thing in Europe. Back in Ottawa, my new pain specialist/GP said if I did have fibro, which she doubted, it was the least of my worries.

I mentioned to Amos in another topic that moving from Geneva to Ottawa, to Washington DC, to Boston and back to Ottawa over 23 years meant rather disjointed medical care. Too many rheumatologists and doctors involved or in some cases no rheumatologist if they proved absolutely useless. One said to me on my first 10-minute visit, “you have some sort of arthritis. It’s going to get worse. See me in 5 months.” I never went back and learned to dislike rheumatologists.

It’s also interesting to note, and it’s nowhere in any of my medical records, that in my early twenties in Toronto, I was treated for severe lower back pain. Nerve blocks when the pain was unbearable helped. Xrays showed I have a tilted pelvis, and my right hip is 4cm higher that the left. So, I don’t know if that contributes to the lower back, buttock, groin and hip pain I am occasionally felled with over the years. It’s nigh on to crippling when it hits. I now know that this can be a symptom of PsA. My present rheumatologist, who I don’t trust anyway, says it’s more “age related” at 75 than PsA. Well, it wasn’t age related when I was 25 and at subsequent ages. She’s never taken a history.

I was so disabled in January 2025, I was first suspected of having avascular necrosis in my hip joint. A battery of scans in a week, determined it was 4 tears in cartilage surrounding the joint, severe tendonitis, enough swelling to impinge a nerve from the sacroiliac for 4 months. I now have permanent nerve damage behind the knee and in the Achilles tendon.

No clue if all this is PsA related or “old age.” Any ideas?

I really appreciate the insight from Poo_ therapy on how the cumulative effect of PsA could certainly explain many of my medical issues over the years. I have other autoimmune issues, since childhood, thrown into the mix and a few others just for fun. I’ve always found it hard to believe there isn’t some connection.

I have managed to live an adventure filled, wouldn’t have missed anything, life despite the medical hassles that caused a few detours along the way.

Oops. Didn’t answer 2 questions Poo_therapy asked. I had a bone density test in 2025 and all was fine in that department.

As for present treatment… after a rare, severe allergic reaction to 2nd injection of Taltz prescribed by rheumatologist in November 2025, my new dermatologist prescribed Tremfya. After the 3rd injection, my inverse psoriasis everywhere you just do not want it to be, almost completely disappeared. It’s marvelous. Not doing much yet for the joint and muscle pain, but I’m ever hopeful.

I have Zoryve for any minor outbreaks. Desonide for particularly nasty itchies in the genital area.

What a sad story PsA investigation wise. There are protocols in every country including Switzerland on how to diagnose PsA and certainly they were around in the early 1990’s in some form. They are much better now though. A third of psoriasis patients go on to develop PsA after all and psoriasis is actually quite common too.

The problem most countries have, is that generically going off to be a rheumatologist is the easy and lazy way to get a consultant’s salary. Because rheumatologists the world over love to never make a decision on patient’s symptoms. Seriously it’s true. Try teaching rheumatologists to give evidence in court cases like I used to do as against say orthopaedic consultants, the difference in both presentation and clarity is really stark between them, sadly.

So the trick to get your rheumatologist to work hard for you is to research them on their interest in PsA. Those that care have done mountains of research into PsA which is published, and they show up at symposiums (often international too) to talk about it. And it’s those ones you need to get in front of as a patient so that you get cogent medical care. I’m off later today to cross the width of England necessitating an overnight stay this time (given I’m not doing great so need to pace it) to see my lovely NHS exceptionally rheumy for an appt. I couldn’t care less I have to travel so far because at the end of it I know I’m getting one of the best brains on the PsA that exists helping me. That is certainly worth while as even though PsA as a disease is a total beast of a disease, I at least feel safe being treated by my rheumy which helps a lot.

Glad you’re now on Tremfya. Its first review for the smallest of improvements joints wise is around 24 weeks (so nearly 6 months) and it takes two years to reach full efficacy so you can continue to improve for those two years before you plateau. It has the longest time to reach full efficacy of all of our meds.

PsA doesn’t care what age you might be to develop symptoms of it. I know one person who developed it aged 18 months old. So yes your hellish back pain aged 25 might have been PsA too, although with those hip abnormalities they would complicate matters too or certainly help the PsA to inflame the area more too.

Since you have been suffering symptoms of PsA most likely since you were around 25, I doubt much is age related now. They can tell however if they use their brains as whilst the damage from PsA and OA looks the same to untrained in PsA eye, there are differences nonetheless. We are more likely to get OA as we age but not in multiple joints all at the same time. The wear and tear nature of OA doesn’t work like that often. Whereas with PsA it can destroy joints in short order if it wants to, even overnight in some cases.

And all autoimmune diseases love to cluster for the very obvious reason that they are all caused by a grossly abnormal immune system. So it’s fairly common to have two or more autoimmune diseases at the same time sadly.

Onward though for all of us really, as it’s the only way.

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Thanks, Poo_therapy, for your insightful response. I’ve always thought there must be some underlying connection between my assorted medical conditions. PsA appears to explain this well and your input confirms this nicely. I’m afraid my present rheumatologist falls into the category of quite happy to do nothing and dismiss most of my symptoms as something other doctors can deal with. The fact that I, according to my primary doctor, basically correctly diagnosed my PsA has put her nose out of joint. I’m afraid I have to work around her not with her. I’m afraid any new symptoms related to PsA will have to be over-the-top before she recognizes them as a problem. I’ll be depending on my GP or, frankly, my own judgement. I’m actively trying to find a new rheumatologist but there is a decided lack of them here, good or bad.

I totally understand you traveling the breadth of Britain to connect with specialists you trust. I did the same during our postings to Washington DC and Boston. I continued to fly back to Ottawa from 2010-2014 to see my pain specialist who had dealt effectively with my then myofascial pain for 13 years. She had absolutely no time for rheumatologists. Having lucked out with the 2 that I did have in Ottawa, I had to agree with her. Safe travels!

Egos in medical consultants have no place!!! I once told a medical consultant to leave his ego at home because it certainly wasn’t going to get stroked by me! :rofl: I think I nearly gave him a heart attack to boot. But I didn’t care then and care even less now.

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Hi Janet. Sorry to hear you’ve had such a long journey and been ill advised and treated. This disease seems to be brushed off by a lot of medics. Takes ages to get a diagnosis and then you’re constantly self advocating to be heard and fighting to find a treatment that helps.

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