Looking back on it, what got in the way of your PsA diagnosis?

Seenie, the precipitating event(s) was fatigue so great that I couldn't function in day to day life. And random swelling that presented like tennis elbow but would move around from one arm the the next and back (enthesitis).

I had been diagnosed with psoriasis in my early 20's and I got the PsA diagnosis at 42. In the intervening years I had been treated for back pain, hip bursitis, tennis elbow and torn tendons in my knee. I had also amassed a large collection of braces and splints for various body parts that had been treated. But it wasn't until my rheumatology consult (the referral was made by my GP who was on the hunt for the cause of my fatigue) when Dr. Stevens asked me to tell him about my Dad's psoriasis that all the pieces were examined as a whole.

My problems started at birth. I was born with a geographic tongue. We were told it was nothing, just a genetic variance. I now know that it is being considered by some to be a form of psoriasis. When I was young, I developed a rash on my scalp, I still have that rash 40+ years later. I was never given a diagnosis of psoriasis and quit asking about it when I was a young adult.

Fast forward to my early teens, I developed swelling in many joints on the right side of my body only. Elbow, knee, wrist, thumb, sausage toes and even my jaw had arthritic changes during my college years. All blood work came back negative. I was hesitantly given the diagnosis of JRA (now known as JIA) even though my swelling was not the classic symmetrical presentation. I also developed "toenail fungus" in high school. After many different treatments for that I still have it all these years later.

As I entered my 20's things seemed to slow down. I had been told JRA patients can go into remission and perhaps I was there now. With doctors permission I came off my meds and had no problems. However, I don't believe I was truly in remission at this point. I continued to have hand and wrist pain, but I was a graphic artist and spent 70 hours a week in front of a computer. I chalked it up to overuse. I developed a bad "eye infection" in my mid 20's. It lasted around three months before the ophthalmologist finally found the right drops for me. I also began to have an intense deep down throbbing pain in my legs. I even thought that either of these could be the JRA. The leg pain has continued to plague me for years.

In my 30's I had some shoulder pain, plantar fascitis and some knee pain. GP thought it was just overuse. I was a runner and I played indoor soccer in an adult league. He gave me prednisone and had me do PT for all events. It seemed to help, for a while.

In my early 40's, the shoulder pain came back with some elbow pain. I think things started to click for me then. The enbrel commerical were on all the time. I started to put the pieces together. I went to my gp, told him of my history of JRA and asked him if it was a possibility. He did blood work and a ct on my shoulder. He came back and said no, it was not my JRA. He gave me predinsone, and sent me to pt. It worked, for a while. A year later my knee started giving me problems. I saw a different gp since I couldn't get into mine. She did xrays and a ct. She did not believe it to be JRA, just over use since I am a runner. Another round of prednisone and pt. It worked a little. A few months later, the swelling in my elbow returned suddenly and very painfully while I was at work. I was sent to the worker comp dr. I begged to be sent to a rhuematologist. They said they could not, but to tell my GP to send me. I followed up with him again. I let him know what the worker's comp doctor said. He finally sent me, I am not sure if it was because he finally came around, or was just tired of dealing with me.

I finally got in and was diagnosed with a "unknown rash" and polyarthritis. He was sure the rash with the nail involvement was psoriasis but didn't diagnose it. He wouldn't diagnose the PSA either. He started the normal dmards, plaquenil and then adding MTX. Still had some pain. He would occasionally give me shots in my elbow, my most bothersome joint and one in my thumb. My last shot was in October.

After the shot, I moved back to my home town. I found a new rheumy and saw her in December. She took xrays, saw that, unknown to me, I had some minor swelling and changes in my hips. She diagnosed me with PSA officially last month. She started me on Enbrel then. I am hoping that the biologic will give me relief and I can one day get back to running.

So, that is my life long journey to getting a diagnosis of PSA!

Love all these replies !

Very interesting Flow,I do have a Genetically confirmed case of Ehlers Danlos Syndrome,Hypermobility Type.

Got that diagnosis back in 2012,but my instincts also tell me that I had undiagnosed PsA for all my adult life.

So in a word what got in the way of my diagnosis? Doctors !!!

Another case of missing the psoriasis diagnosis! How didn't they know that the rash on your scalp was psoriasis? And, that bothers me about not getting the psoriasis diagnosis. Our son has had some small skin patches here and there that look like psoriasis to me but his doctors say it's seborrheic dermatitis. One daughter has really dry skin that gets itchy and flaky, but doesn't look like psoriasis--she also gets the split skin on her fingertips (like I used to get before I started Enbrel). She was a dermatology nurse and she insists to me her dry skin isn't psoriasis--she says she's seen a LOT of psoriasis, and it isn't just dry skin! But, Seenie, and I think a couple others, have mentioned all they had was "dry skin"--right, Seenie? Also, our 4-year old granddaughter gets itchy spots and they're supposedly eczema. Oh, and our youngest daughter has no skin issues, but she has a "different" tongue--and she is always tired and no energy. What is geographic tongue? I guess time will tell if these family members get diagnosed with PsA someday. The odds are against them--the gene comes from me and also my husband's side of the family!

Goofy Pirate said:

My problems started at birth. I was born with a geographic tongue. We were told it was nothing, just a genetic variance. I now know that it is being considered by some to be a form of psoriasis. When I was young, I developed a rash on my scalp, I still have that rash 40+ years later. I was never given a diagnosis of psoriasis and quit asking about it when I was a young adult.

Fast forward to my early teens, I developed swelling in many joints on the right side of my body only. Elbow, knee, wrist, thumb, sausage toes and even my jaw had arthritic changes during my college years. All blood work came back negative. I was hesitantly given the diagnosis of JRA (now known as JIA) even though my swelling was not the classic symmetrical presentation. I also developed "toenail fungus" in high school. After many different treatments for that I still have it all these years later.

As I entered my 20's things seemed to slow down. I had been told JRA patients can go into remission and perhaps I was there now. With doctors permission I came off my meds and had no problems. However, I don't believe I was truly in remission at this point. I continued to have hand and wrist pain, but I was a graphic artist and spent 70 hours a week in front of a computer. I chalked it up to overuse. I developed a bad "eye infection" in my mid 20's. It lasted around three months before the ophthalmologist finally found the right drops for me. I also began to have an intense deep down throbbing pain in my legs. I even thought that either of these could be the JRA. The leg pain has continued to plague me for years.

In my 30's I had some shoulder pain, plantar fascitis and some knee pain. GP thought it was just overuse. I was a runner and I played indoor soccer in an adult league. He gave me prednisone and had me do PT for all events. It seemed to help, for a while.

In my early 40's, the shoulder pain came back with some elbow pain. I think things started to click for me then. The enbrel commerical were on all the time. I started to put the pieces together. I went to my gp, told him of my history of JRA and asked him if it was a possibility. He did blood work and a ct on my shoulder. He came back and said no, it was not my JRA. He gave me predinsone, and sent me to pt. It worked, for a while. A year later my knee started giving me problems. I saw a different gp since I couldn't get into mine. She did xrays and a ct. She did not believe it to be JRA, just over use since I am a runner. Another round of prednisone and pt. It worked a little. A few months later, the swelling in my elbow returned suddenly and very painfully while I was at work. I was sent to the worker comp dr. I begged to be sent to a rhuematologist. They said they could not, but to tell my GP to send me. I followed up with him again. I let him know what the worker's comp doctor said. He finally sent me, I am not sure if it was because he finally came around, or was just tired of dealing with me.

I finally got in and was diagnosed with a "unknown rash" and polyarthritis. He was sure the rash with the nail involvement was psoriasis but didn't diagnose it. He wouldn't diagnose the PSA either. He started the normal dmards, plaquenil and then adding MTX. Still had some pain. He would occasionally give me shots in my elbow, my most bothersome joint and one in my thumb. My last shot was in October.

After the shot, I moved back to my home town. I found a new rheumy and saw her in December. She took xrays, saw that, unknown to me, I had some minor swelling and changes in my hips. She diagnosed me with PSA officially last month. She started me on Enbrel then. I am hoping that the biologic will give me relief and I can one day get back to running.

So, that is my life long journey to getting a diagnosis of PSA!

So that’s 3 of us with confirmed hypermobility, out of a pretty small number … That’s definitely curious…!




ouch said:

Love all these replies !

Very interesting Flow,I do have a Genetically confirmed case of Ehlers Danlos Syndrome,Hypermobility Type.

Got that diagnosis back in 2012,but my instincts also tell me that I had undiagnosed PsA for all my adult life.

So in a word what got in the way of my diagnosis? Doctors !!!

Grandma J, I have always had dry skin too. I have to use lotion on my whole body everyday. And my hands, if I don't use lotion all day long I tend to get blistered, peeling palms which is very painful. I have never gotten an answer for what causes that. I am not sure if psoriasis can present in that way. I also forgot to mention the crushing fatigue I have had almost my whole life. My gp only tested for things like thyroid and glucose levels for that and never came up with a cause.

Look up the geographic tongue on the internet. There are some pretty good pics of it if you view images. It simply looks like I have large red area all over my tongue that are surrounded by a white border. Over time the spots migrate and change shape.

Grandma J said:

Another case of missing the psoriasis diagnosis! How didn't they know that the rash on your scalp was psoriasis? And, that bothers me about not getting the psoriasis diagnosis. Our son has had some small skin patches here and there that look like psoriasis to me but his doctors say it's seborrheic dermatitis. One daughter has really dry skin that gets itchy and flaky, but doesn't look like psoriasis--she also gets the split skin on her fingertips (like I used to get before I started Enbrel). She was a dermatology nurse and she insists to me her dry skin isn't psoriasis--she says she's seen a LOT of psoriasis, and it isn't just dry skin! But, Seenie, and I think a couple others, have mentioned all they had was "dry skin"--right, Seenie? Also, our 4-year old granddaughter gets itchy spots and they're supposedly eczema. Oh, and our youngest daughter has no skin issues, but she has a "different" tongue--and she is always tired and no energy. What is geographic tongue? I guess time will tell if these family members get diagnosed with PsA someday. The odds are against them--the gene comes from me and also my husband's side of the family!

Goofy Pirate said:

My problems started at birth. I was born with a geographic tongue. We were told it was nothing, just a genetic variance. I now know that it is being considered by some to be a form of psoriasis. When I was young, I developed a rash on my scalp, I still have that rash 40+ years later. I was never given a diagnosis of psoriasis and quit asking about it when I was a young adult.

Fast forward to my early teens, I developed swelling in many joints on the right side of my body only. Elbow, knee, wrist, thumb, sausage toes and even my jaw had arthritic changes during my college years. All blood work came back negative. I was hesitantly given the diagnosis of JRA (now known as JIA) even though my swelling was not the classic symmetrical presentation. I also developed "toenail fungus" in high school. After many different treatments for that I still have it all these years later.

As I entered my 20's things seemed to slow down. I had been told JRA patients can go into remission and perhaps I was there now. With doctors permission I came off my meds and had no problems. However, I don't believe I was truly in remission at this point. I continued to have hand and wrist pain, but I was a graphic artist and spent 70 hours a week in front of a computer. I chalked it up to overuse. I developed a bad "eye infection" in my mid 20's. It lasted around three months before the ophthalmologist finally found the right drops for me. I also began to have an intense deep down throbbing pain in my legs. I even thought that either of these could be the JRA. The leg pain has continued to plague me for years.

In my 30's I had some shoulder pain, plantar fascitis and some knee pain. GP thought it was just overuse. I was a runner and I played indoor soccer in an adult league. He gave me prednisone and had me do PT for all events. It seemed to help, for a while.

In my early 40's, the shoulder pain came back with some elbow pain. I think things started to click for me then. The enbrel commerical were on all the time. I started to put the pieces together. I went to my gp, told him of my history of JRA and asked him if it was a possibility. He did blood work and a ct on my shoulder. He came back and said no, it was not my JRA. He gave me predinsone, and sent me to pt. It worked, for a while. A year later my knee started giving me problems. I saw a different gp since I couldn't get into mine. She did xrays and a ct. She did not believe it to be JRA, just over use since I am a runner. Another round of prednisone and pt. It worked a little. A few months later, the swelling in my elbow returned suddenly and very painfully while I was at work. I was sent to the worker comp dr. I begged to be sent to a rhuematologist. They said they could not, but to tell my GP to send me. I followed up with him again. I let him know what the worker's comp doctor said. He finally sent me, I am not sure if it was because he finally came around, or was just tired of dealing with me.

I finally got in and was diagnosed with a "unknown rash" and polyarthritis. He was sure the rash with the nail involvement was psoriasis but didn't diagnose it. He wouldn't diagnose the PSA either. He started the normal dmards, plaquenil and then adding MTX. Still had some pain. He would occasionally give me shots in my elbow, my most bothersome joint and one in my thumb. My last shot was in October.

After the shot, I moved back to my home town. I found a new rheumy and saw her in December. She took xrays, saw that, unknown to me, I had some minor swelling and changes in my hips. She diagnosed me with PSA officially last month. She started me on Enbrel then. I am hoping that the biologic will give me relief and I can one day get back to running.

So, that is my life long journey to getting a diagnosis of PSA!

Having to wait seven long month till I could get into a rhumey. I went to many doctors and they all knew I had an appointment with a rhumey so they would not make the call. I was locked up, could hardly walk, flaring all over, had xrays mri and blood work, missed going to set my first college child's dorm and send off. Do not want to ever to have to go back to those days! Finally, my internist said forget this we are going to start you on MTX and folic acid and by the time you see him you will be on it for three months so if he wants to start you on something stronger you will be able to.

Yep, seven long months!

What a great discussion! So many of us suffered in silence, blamed it on our lifestyle (too fat, too skinny, exercise too much, exercise too little, etc...), or ourselves and made light to the doctors about what was going on or were just misdiagnosed! It probably started with a rash when I was a kid no one could figure out, just one quarter sized, red, itchy patch on my wrist. Then in my 30's was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome... told the doctor he was an idiot and just grabbing the diagnosis of the day (which really hurt him since he had been our doctor since I was a infant)! Joint pain and fatigue continued over the years. Then, after caring for my mom before her death developed a rash on my hands which then spread to my elbows and scalp... contact dermatitis, so I was told, due to all the washing and scrubbing while taking care of Mom. 15 years later, I wake up one morning and can't stand up, both knees are on fire, swollen and full of fluid. Finally, after 3 months of messing with this, an orthopedic doctor tells me I need to see a rheumy because something else is going on. First guy was a jerk so waited 3 more years to see another... finally I see a great one, one who gives me an extensive checklist of body parts to evaluate and then, on looking at my reply about my skin, looks at a spot on my elbow and says, "Hmm,I think you have PSA... you have psoriasis. Have you seen a dermatologist?" Um... yes, many and they all said "contact dermatitis"... Finally a DIAGNOSIS that made sense!!! Lots more to the story, but we can see a pattern here! Many of us with the same type of delay in diagnosis.

I don't have a diagnoses of PSA(I do however have psoriasis and joint pain) but I was interested to hear a few people have Hypermobility Syndrome......this is what I have but still feel something more is going on!

Yes, I’m really interested by this too. It could just be coincidence, of course. Or there could be some kind of association between the two. I wonder if the common factor is enthesitis: in PsA, general inflammation can include inflammation of the entheses (tendon and ligament attachment points) and this leads on sometimes to joint damage. In hypermobility syndrome, I wonder whether mechanical over-stressing can cause enthesitis, and whether it can have the same consequences… I’m waiting for a referral to a specialist rheumatology centre, and plan to ask!



sunny said:

I don’t have a diagnoses of PSA(I do however have psoriasis and joint pain) but I was interested to hear a few people have Hypermobility Syndrome…this is what I have but still feel something more is going on!

Sunny, you joined us four years ago, and you still don't have a diagnosis? How many rheumatologists have you seen about your joint pain with psoriasis? Are you getting better than you were four years ago? What kinds of reasons are they giving you for your symptoms? And when you ask them if you could have PsA, what do they say?

A lot of questions? What? Me? LOL

sunny said:

I don't have a diagnoses of PSA(I do however have psoriasis and joint pain) but I was interested to hear a few people have Hypermobility Syndrome......this is what I have but still feel something more is going on!

I have read so many horror stories about how long it took to be diagnosed that I feel really blessed to have been diagnosed as quickly as I was.

I was going through a very stressful period in life and started to really hurt in a lot of places. My chest hurt whenever I moved, my right wrist felt like it was broken and my left wrist didn't feel much better. My neck hurt, my elbows hurt and my lower back hurt. I had planters faciatis in my left foot, and I had what I thought was toenail fungus that didn't respond to medication. I also had psoriasis on the back of my head that I was just thinking was bad dandruff.

After a month or so of the general pain in my chest, wrists, neck and elbow so bad that I couldn't sleep at night because the pain woke me up every time I moved I scheduled an appointment with my gp. Dr. Google and myself figured I probably had carpal tunnel and fibromyalgia. What I thought was really weird was how sudden the pain showed up. It was like I just woke one day a broken old woman. When I started describing the wrist and chest pain my Dr. immediately came up with "You could have RA" and gave me a prescription for six days of Prednisone. I felt great for about 3 days and then the pain steadily creeped back in. On top of all that I was exhausted all the time.

I did some reading and as I kept getting more and more symptoms, including a finger so swollen I couldn't use silverware I called my Dr. and requested a referral to a rheumy. After about a three month wait with more and more joints involved and pain so bad that I could barely lift anything or walk I finally had my appointment.

I absolutely love my rheumatologist. After talking with me probably less than 10 minutes she says you definitely have PsA. She gave me a prednisone injection, 6 weeks of prednisone and mtx. I went from about the end of January to early July between official diagnosis. On my next appointment the rheumy took one look at me and said the mtx isn't helping, lets put you on Humira.She says that I have a very severe case so that may be why it all went so quick. I feel like there is not a single joint in my body that is not effected by this.

In hindsight, I have been tired as long as can remember, I have had very dry skin, so bad that I would scratch sores on legs on a regular basis. And what seems like always some weird aches and pains. I am so very thankful that we have biologics to treat this now. Without them I am sure that I would most likely be completely disabled now.

Would love to hear what the rheumatologist has to say on the subject. Enthesitis could explain it and I have also read a bit about Aquired Hypermobility due to autoimmune issues, but I can't seem to find anything in-depth that explains why.

flow said:

Yes, I'm really interested by this too. It could just be coincidence, of course. Or there could be some kind of association between the two. I wonder if the common factor is enthesitis: in PsA, general inflammation can include inflammation of the entheses (tendon and ligament attachment points) and this leads on sometimes to joint damage. In hypermobility syndrome, I wonder whether mechanical over-stressing can cause enthesitis, and whether it can have the same consequences... I'm waiting for a referral to a specialist rheumatology centre, and plan to ask!

sunny said:

I don't have a diagnoses of PSA(I do however have psoriasis and joint pain) but I was interested to hear a few people have Hypermobility Syndrome......this is what I have but still feel something more is going on!


Hi Seenie, :)

Yes, I joined 4 years ago and honestly have had problems for 10 years now. I saw 2 rheumies 4 yrs ago, both were patronizing and I have not bothered seeing any since! I was diagnosed 2 yrs ago with Hypermobility Syndrome by a Musculoskeletal Physician.......he is a good doctor but when I mention PSA, he just says, there's nothing to suggest it yet.

I am going back to see him and demand an MRI on my right hip......hopefully this will FINALLY show something!


Seenie said:

Sunny, you joined us four years ago, and you still don't have a diagnosis? How many rheumatologists have you seen about your joint pain with psoriasis? Are you getting better than you were four years ago? What kinds of reasons are they giving you for your symptoms? And when you ask them if you could have PsA, what do they say?

A lot of questions? What? Me? LOL

sunny said:

I don't have a diagnoses of PSA(I do however have psoriasis and joint pain) but I was interested to hear a few people have Hypermobility Syndrome......this is what I have but still feel something more is going on!

Please go for it sunny! This is how it works: if you get patronised again, blown-off, dismissed etc. etc. you come straight back here and let rip. We will bolster you up because a lot of us know exactly how that feels! And then when your fighting spirit is repaired, you try again until you get some answers that make sense to you. But hopefully that will not be necessary. Whatever happens, I hope you decide to keep us in the loop. Good luck.


sunny said:


Hi Seenie, :)

Yes, I joined 4 years ago and honestly have had problems for 10 years now. I saw 2 rheumies 4 yrs ago, both were patronizing and I have not bothered seeing any since! I was diagnosed 2 yrs ago with Hypermobility Syndrome by a Musculoskeletal Physician.......he is a good doctor but when I mention PSA, he just says, there's nothing to suggest it yet.

I am going back to see him and demand an MRI on my right hip......hopefully this will FINALLY show something!


Seenie said:

Sunny, you joined us four years ago, and you still don't have a diagnosis? How many rheumatologists have you seen about your joint pain with psoriasis? Are you getting better than you were four years ago? What kinds of reasons are they giving you for your symptoms? And when you ask them if you could have PsA, what do they say?

A lot of questions? What? Me? LOL

sunny said:

I don't have a diagnoses of PSA(I do however have psoriasis and joint pain) but I was interested to hear a few people have Hypermobility Syndrome......this is what I have but still feel something more is going on!

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Yes, Michellel, the story of how you were diagnosed is the way we wish it had gone for all of us. I think you just happened to land in the office of a rheumatologist who had a thorough knowledge of PsA. Lucky, yes. Our discussion boards are full of stories of nonsensical diagnoses or wholesale dismissal of the patient's concerns. It's not as if we want to be diagnosed with PsA, but when the correct diagnosis comes from a thoughtful physician who explains how s/he reached that diagnosis, most of us reacted with "Right, that makes sense to me." (In addition, perhaps, to feelings of shock and panic!)

michellel said:

I have read so many horror stories about how long it took to be diagnosed that I feel really blessed to have been diagnosed as quickly as I was.

Sunny, what a trial for you! Having psoriasis and joint pain should put PsA right at the top of the list of suspects, with red underlining and stars. I hope on the next round that you will, as Sybil says, get some answers that make sense to you.

In our Newbies' Guide, we have an article written by Mod GrumpyCat which is about preparing yourself for your rheumatology appointment. I think it is worth a read.

Something else which you might want to invest in is a copy of the book which several of us here call "The PsA Bible". It's available on Amazon in both e-book format and soft cover. It's written for lay people, but even medical professionals find it informative.

Glad you're back with us!


sunny said:


Hi Seenie, :)

Yes, I joined 4 years ago and honestly have had problems for 10 years now. I saw 2 rheumies 4 yrs ago, both were patronizing and I have not bothered seeing any since! I was diagnosed 2 yrs ago with Hypermobility Syndrome by a Musculoskeletal Physician.......he is a good doctor but when I mention PSA, he just says, there's nothing to suggest it yet.

I am going back to see him and demand an MRI on my right hip......hopefully this will FINALLY show something!

It took 15 years of my life before I was diagnosed. Countless tests,surgeons,nerve blocks,getting no answers,being treated like a lying,scamming pill popper. The usual you have toe fungus. I had a place called syracuse spine and wellness kick me out when I refused their money making $2500 a pop nerve blocks.They told me nothing was wrong with me.Three years ago moved to my knees and guess what,same tests,surgeons,rheum, no answers,told I had a torn miniscus. I was just diagnosed a few weeks ago and on my first visit I was told my foot pain was probably caused by guess what? My shoes.my psa has been basically left untreated for several years,I have constant back pain,leg pain,foot pain.swollen knees,weak and fatigued.On my next visit After X-rays Im Told I have sponylitis and psa.You must take into consideration through most of the 15 years I also had plaques all over my body.Maybe some day a famous person will get psa and it will get the attention it deserves,until then people will continue to suffer like I did. Now the rheum tells me that the only thing that might work is biologics.I do not trust doctors nor do I think if I had complications from a biologic that I would get decent care.

I'm sorry to hear this. Jumping to biologics might give you some relief, which you deserve.

Dpmulvan said:

It took 15 years of my life before I was diagnosed. Countless tests,surgeons,nerve blocks,getting no answers,being treated like a lying,scamming pill popper. The usual you have toe fungus. I had a place called syracuse spine and wellness kick me out when I refused their money making $2500 a pop nerve blocks.They told me nothing was wrong with me.Three years ago moved to my knees and guess what,same tests,surgeons,rheum, no answers,told I had a torn miniscus. I was just diagnosed a few weeks ago and on my first visit I was told my foot pain was probably caused by guess what? My shoes.my psa has been basically left untreated for several years,I have constant back pain,leg pain,foot pain.swollen knees,weak and fatigued.On my next visit After X-rays Im Told I have sponylitis and psa.You must take into consideration through most of the 15 years I also had plaques all over my body.Maybe some day a famous person will get psa and it will get the attention it deserves,until then people will continue to suffer like I did. Now the rheum tells me that the only thing that might work is biologics.I do not trust doctors nor do I think if I had complications from a biologic that I would get decent care.

Wow Seenie what a great thread. I wish I had seen it earlier. Seenie and I have already discussed that other than the fact i was diagnosed with P as a teenager, I could carbon copy her responses. (overweight, menopausal, unfit etc etc)
What blows me away is the discussion of hypermobility that has come up. I too was a hypermobile child. I would watch TV with my feet behind my head, sit in full lotus when other kids struggled to cross theirs, My mother rushed me to hospital at the age of 3 because I popped my thumb out of joint and moved the ball to reach the other side of my hand. The doctor looked at me when we got there and it looked normal, said "what did you do?" I replied "This" and moved it over again. Mum nearly fainted. Doc got all interested and checked I could do it on other hand (yes) and then went on to measure my mobility of other joints. I was called "Double Jointed" and was always the one in the school yard who could turn cartwheels like a gymnast and drop to do the splits with no effort. Oh how times have changed. I can barely bend down to touch the ground these days.