Biologics - is anyone NOT on them?

As long as SOMEONE does this and is willing to manage your disease I say go for it!

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In Australia, we are so conservative, a GP is not actually allowed to.

I am pretty bullish on the biologics (the stats speak for themselves, and I’ve personally had great experiences).

In terms of any reservations though - if it were me in Australia, I would have just the one - and that is because our GPs here aren’t allowed to use them, their familiarity with monitoring them and any potential issues would be extraordinarily unfamiliar, which presents a different type of risk profile.

In the US, that may not be the case at all - in which case I would say No Reservations!

In my case, I’ll be honest, I’m such a researcher, and am comfortable with my understanding of risks and possible outcomes, that even with a GP without experience, as long as I trusted them and they were willing to let me access my own monitoring data (e.g. Blood tests), I’d be happy to go ahead.

But it is up to you to asses your own risk profile, and what you are comfortable with.

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GREAT NEWS !!!

Received approval for Enbrel and it’s arriving in 2 days…scared and excited all at the same time…Primary care doctor stepped up to the plate and swung…Now let’s hope he hit a home run…

He starting me out on a low dose (25mg) to start…want’s to make sure I have no allergic reactions…

Could I expect to see some results from a half weekly dose ??

sooooo want this to work…

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FANTASTIC NEWS indeed. Wow, you are lucky to have got approval for a bio ordered by a PCP. While some people notice changes soon after starting, most of us got gradual improvement over a period of a couple of months.
I understand your doc’s wanting to play it safe with you, but allergic reactions are pretty rare. If you seem to tolerate it well, I’d be pushing for a standard dose asap!
One thing about biologics: they tend to either work well or not at all. So yes, let’s hope for a home run!

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Best of luck THread designs - both entrepreneurs and humira were near miracles for me, I hope you have some great results too :grin:

Thanks so much Jen75…but I feel like I’m putting all my eggs in one basket and the way my hands feel right now I could easily drop it. Elbows were in so much pain last week I couldn’t open the clamps on my embroidery machines. I had to reach for the prednisone bottle …you know, the one with the skull & X bones on it. I had no choice…I have to work…retail specialty stores depend on me…only problem is that I get every possible side effect there is even with just 10mg. I’m normally in a sleep coma for at least 7 hours but now all you have to do is tap me on the shoulder at 3 AM and my eyes will pop open and I’ll ask ā€œhow may I help you?ā€ā€¦awful…

It’s a very good basket. Congratulations ThreadDesigns, hope all goes well.

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Hi, Everyone,

I’m a Nebraska newbie. Diagnosed two years ago with ā€œA nickel’s worth of psoriasis and 75 cents worth of psoriatic arthritis.ā€ I have done the tumeric & diet thing with some success (gluten-free, who knew?). I’ve taken an NSAID (Indomethacin) twice a day and few symptoms, but I have a clash with a blood thinner (Xarelto). So now I’m facing (this Friday) a choice between Otezla - Enbrel - or Humira. At 66, I think I’m ready to grow up a little and face this. Can anyone give me their thoughts/experiences- why one over the other? (Google is a big disappointment on this one!) Many thanks!

You bet we are conservative.

When I saw my Rehmy first 15 years ago now I thought he said take 20-30mg once a week of MTX. I looked at the recommendations of the Mayo clinic and they suggested 30. So thats what I took. On my next visit said I decided on 30 - he said WHAT - the max you should be taking is 25. I told him I thought he said 20 to 30 - no - he said 20 to 25 - 25 is the max used here in Aus. But I said - look if you cant trust the mayo clinc who can you trust. No - go - so took 20. Its just we are very conservative here.

Hi Autographk–lucky you! :confused: Actually, I’m serious. I’ll put a plug in for Enbrel. I’m 63, and have been on Enbrel for almost 3 years now. It’s one injection a week–which is one of the reasons I opted for it. I liked that it only lasts a week–in case it gave me nasty SEs, they wouldn’t last long! I have no SEs other than the first few injections gave me a 2" pink blotch around the injection site. I inject in my stomach (lots of fat). If you go on Enbrel, your doctor might start you out on two injections a week for the first 3 months. I’m an Enbrel success story so far…good luck with whatever biologic you decide on!

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Oooops, I noticed you’re on a blood thinner. I’m on some meds also for a recent coronary blockage, and there is no adverse effect from combining blood thinners, cholesterol meds or Plavix with Enbrel.

ThreadDesigns, how’s it going on Enbrel??? Are you feeling better?

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Hi, Grandma_J
Thanks for replying. I think I will talk Enbrel with my doctor this Friday.
I appreciate your thoughts/info.!

Hey Grandma!!
Finally checking in since I started Enbrel February 20th…
To sum it up… I would say there is about a 90 percent improvement in the skin and about a 50 percent improvement below the skin… I can’t say joints cause the swelling stiffness and pain is not joint specific… My entire hands, arms, elbows and feet fluctuate all day and night with variable degrees of pain and swelling… The Enbrel is definitely helping though without any side effects … I just wish it could do more. Rheumy claims that I could see more improvement over fime. It’s a little frustrating when I read testimony that people are so called ā€œcuredā€. With the amount of disease activity, I don’t see that happening with me…

Hey ThreadDesigns!!! That sounds good! I’m hoping the PsA will improve to at least 80% also.

I’m wondering, though, if your rheumy has increased your dose to 50mg yet? I think that’s important. Interestingly, my dermatologist got me started on Enbrel 2 x 50mg a week for the first three months. I think that helped kick my symptoms hard from the getgo. Do have problems with allergies?

Keep us posted!!!

Be patient - biologics continue to work on pain etc for a full year! My relief was slow to come with humira - definitely not instant but it has continued to get better and better … Relax and give it time xx

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What a great thread!

One thing stood out for me though. Never ever be scared of being a nuisance to your doctor. Be polite by all means but please always be persistent if you don’t understand or something doesn’t ā€˜feel’ right or logical or doing any good beyond the expected time period. And work hard at explaining why you feel that too so they can understand.

This disease is awful (as are many others too) and treatments can help a considerable amount so there’s no good reason with the eventual access to the specialists that progressive treatments aren’t being tried when necessary (within varous countries’ guidelines) so as to minimise your pain first of all and any disability most importantly. Please don’t be shy in saying something doesn’t make sense to you.

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I had steady improvement over about nine months. The thing is, biologics enable you to do things that you couldn’t do before. They make you move better, with less pain, so you’re likely to be more active. Physical activity is good for pain control, and so it goes. In the end, is the improvement because of the medication, or is it because of the good things it allows you to do? Does it matter?

What great news, ThreadDesigns! I hope the trend continues for you.

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